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Sharpening edges

Can I sharp my skis frequently with the Twin Roto Concept?

Yes, and it is even advisable to do it! The Twin Roto Concept is designed for this. This simple and fast way don’t thin the edge so much so it can be sharpened several hundred times before the edge is too thin.

How often should I grind and polish the base edge with the drop files?

At each sharpening, we advise you to do 3 to 4 round trips with the long grain 400 diamond file. This removes roughness.

When there is noticeable damage, it must be removed or reduced with the long grain diamond file 200 and then finished with the long grain 400 diamond file to polish the underside of the edge.

If structures (which are necessary for the proper functioning of the base plate) are under the edge, grinding them out with a long grain 200 and then 400 grit diamond file is essential for the proper functioning of skis and snowboards.

Be careful, do not use long diamond files without lime guides!

How do you know when to change the roto finish rotating diamonds?

It is advisable to change the rotating diamonds in the following cases:

- for grains 120 and 200: when you grind a lot without great efficiency

- for grains 400 and 800: if they no longer generate a very sharp edge.

Is it necessary to remove the lip with an eraser after using the Roto Finish for sharpening the edges of skis or snowboards?

It is always a shame to use an abrasive gum that slightly rounds the edge when it is well sharpened.

The ideal is to grind the edge slightly with the long diamond file 400 in the file guide to fall 0.5 ° or 1 ° before sharpening the side edge with Tuning File or Roto finish but very lightly (one to two passages with a very light pressure).

Which angles of tuning do you recommend for skis and snowboards?

We advise the following angles:

Base edge bevel angle
Side edge angle
Sports, giant slalom, ski cross
Casual, touring
Slalom 0,5° 3° to 6°
Freestyle, downhill, boardercross 1,5° 1° to 3°

On my previous skis, the angle of fall was 1 °. Which angles should I choose?

The base edge bevel angle comes from the production or service machines in the store. It should be known that 0.5 ° is a very small angle not obvious to reach and that commonly the fall is towards 1 °. For tuning by hand (which is the most accurate) the angle is given by our file guides, which exist in three version 0.5 °, 1 ° and 1.5 °.

With 0.5 ° you have a slightly more responsive ski than with 1 °. Whether your new ski or the previous one you can sharpen with the side angle at 3 °. When you maintain the underside of the edge (which allows good maneuverability and good driving accuracy) and that the edge is rounded or scratched the file-guide 1 ° will more easily remove the abrasions and get a sharp edge. It is better to have a clean edge and sharp at 1 ° than 0.5 ° with more abrasions and a edge that remains a little rounded below.

In summary :

Below: 0.5 ° as long as you work easily to the side of the edge and 1 ° if it becomes difficult to reach the side.

Side of the edge: 1 ° to 3 ° (3 ° is perfect for a slalom ski).

It is interesting to know that for a medium-sized adult a low angulation of the knee of 5mm angles the ski by about 0.5 degree.

Is it necessary to put some water on the edges before sanding and polishing?

Putting a little water on the edges before sanding them has advantages and disadvantages:

The advantages of wet sanding (a sponge is ideal):

  •  • Diamonds wear less
  •  • Diamonds stay a little cleaner
  •  • Diamonds are a little more effective

The disadvantages of wet sanding:

  •  • Soiling and dampening of the workplace
  •  • The base of the ski or snowboard is dirty enough

How often do the diamond and diamond discs have to be cleaned with the brass brush, water and a drop of dishwashing product?

Unless there are residual wax on the edge, the Roto-Finish diamonds get dirty. On the other hand, fixed diamonds get much dirty. The ideal is to clean each use or every two to three uses and the diamond discs when they look dirty (pull discs to remove).

Always sharpening before waxing!

When discussing edge sharpening with a friend, he pointed out the importance of deburring. What do you advise?

In the "useful info" on the 2nd page of the instructions of the set of sharpening, we provide indications on a possible reduction of the edge at the top and the bottom of the skis and snowboards.

Otherwise, as our tools do not do or almost no burrs, there is nothing else to do. However, after sharpening (on the edge side), you can still make two to three very light passes under the edge with the 400 or 800 long diamond file in its GT guide.

Rarely and according to the texture of the snow, a less biting edge works better. To reduce sharpness, use the abrasive pad delivered in the five different Tuning Boxes and with standard Tuning-File and Tuning-Fie RACE.

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If file sharpening is necessary, is it necessary to polish with Roto-Finish and when using only Roto-Finish?

The ideal is to file the first time and later to use Roto-Finish.

After filing, there is no need to fine-tune with Roto-Finish.

However, for the competition, especially if the snow is very cold and fine a polishing with Roto-Finish 400 then 800 will improve the glide.

When you have skied for a few days on soft snow that has very little rounded edge, it is not necessary to file. You can then limit yourself to three or four trips with the Roto-Finish 400.

When you've been skiing for a day or two on hard snow, you can sharp with the Twin Roro Concept, which consists of 10 to 12 round trips to the Roto-Finish 200 followed by polishing with the Roto Finish 400.

This polishing will be done either by 6 round trips with the roto-Finish 400 set to a degree less than the Roto-Finish, or without changing the angle (same angle as the Roto-Finish 200) but with a dozen or so back and forth.

If by 12 round trips to the RF200 you have not found the cutting edge, add some back and forth. If it is still not sharp it means that your edge is quite rounded and it is better to make a sharpening file.

In general, if you don’t do frequent sharpening use the file.

Do you have to round part in heel and spatula?

This is a personal practice that also varies depending on the ski models and / or the quality of the snow. Some do not round, others little and others more and this on different lengths. In general, we avoid rounding skis slalom and personally I do not round in heel even when it comes to longer skis.

For snowboards, it is advisable to round the front of the edge "front side" about 15 cm.

Also look question “Is it necessary to remove the lip with an eraser after using the Roto Finish for sharpening the edges of skis or snowboards?”

How to know when to replace the files of the sharpening set or the file of fallen Race?

We must avoid sharpening with files that do not cut very well because if they slide on the edge without producing clear chips, the edge is scratched, and the files wear immediately. Sharpening becomes difficult or even impossible and of poor quality. So you have to replace the Race lime, the milling lime, the extra fine lime or the ski base race file. Ideally too early than too late.

Tip: the better you pre-sand the edge with the diamond face of the Race file or the milling file or with the 120 or 200 long-grain diamond files for the underside of the edge, the longer the files will last.